They have a biosciences chances site? University of St Andrews acceptance rates and statistics for PhD Physics for the years 2017, 2018 and 2019. There are several that make use of computational biology, and I'd imagine so few people with that background apply that your friend would stand a good chance.

Oh okay. They focus mainly on GPA/MCAT scores/Research experience/medical experience and volunteer work, on an equal level all around. No, we only offer a Ph.D. How do I apply? It's just that maybe the intelligence required for physics is at the 98th percentile rather than the 90th percentile. The requirements for a PhD in Physics at MIT are the doctoral examination, a few required subject classes, and a research-based thesis. This means that for every 100 students who applied, 6 students were admitted, making MIT's admissions process highly competitive. Of the ones that don't require advanced GREs, do they have higher average GPAs? In the past 80 years, our department has guided over 600 PhD candidates to success. They just convince themselves that their coursework is sufficient enough and put off studying.

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Physics might be more "difficult" in terms of the % of students smart enough to do the thing. The low GPA + high PGRE(>850ish) + domestic + did actual major in physics combo is VERY rare on the forums (I guess more conscientious people tend to post their profiles more, which is funny, since forums also tend to attract lots of easily-distracted people/INTPs/people with ADD/[people who can really only learn for once and for all when they screw-up and thus learn after getting mistakes on tests], but I guess I'm the only one).

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But a guy with a 3.5 did get into Berkeley and Columbia for physics. Especially if you want full support/funding. You could also check the results page.

, I am not a physicist by the way- just pointing out what I have seen from general observation. In addition, other graduate programs in the social sciences, humanities, management, architecture, and urban studies have gained significant prominence. © School name Department Acceptance rate Number applied Maybe the guys with 3.3s had PHENOMENAL research.

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And yes, people with 3.3s DO get into physics grad programs, and it's actually not uncommon. What are the requirements to complete a PhD? var year=""; I need to recheck the applicant pools and admission result threads. But that doesn't necessarily make it harder to get into, for someone who probably already has that intelligence.

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A physics PhD>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chemistry/Biology/Biochemistry

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In difficulty. I don't consider myself a genius either - genius isn't even required to succeed at upper-level physics coursework. If you're set on doing an EECS PhD, MIT's a pretty damn good place to do it -- you're liable to be working with top people on top research, and you should end up with excellent connections for your field. The difficulty of admission in a graduate program is driven by funding as much as it is driven by competition. So you can imagine it some pretty wide fields. I've looked into cognitive science PhD programs, and the top ones are still amazingly hard to get into (based on what someone from reddit says). 1-2 years of MD, then the PhD part, then finish up MD. year = myyear; I know fairly mediocre kids with high PGRE scores. I'd really appreciate it. We love data at MIT. The key to that: a high PGRE score paired up with research. To enter the doctoral program, students must have done well in their previous academic work and must be formally accepted as candidates for the Ph.D. degree by the Department of Linguistics and Philosophy.Furthermore, an applicant must have received a bachelor’s degree or its equivalent from a college or university of acceptable standing. Well, it's much easier to get research with a theoretical/computational biologist than it is to get with a regular biologist (especially one in the health sciences). Or theoretical biology. :)

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Okay I'm looking through the profiles now. You see people with 3.3s getting into top biology programs. However, this is because humanities receive even less funding (you can think of them as even more theoretical than theoretical sciences, because there is very little concrete gain). Note that this new policy may not be reflected on all Harvard University websites yet. Graduate students entering the Department have had a wide variety of major background preparation, varying from literature to physics. I'm really only concerned about relative acceptance rates.

. Plus, the school has an alumni network of more than 150,000 around the world. Can you name one top-level interdisciplinary program with an acceptance rate that's at least 30%? Where is that? Graduate School Acceptance Rate: 60% (some programs may be different) Founded in 1870, Loyola University of Chicago is one of the nation’s largest Jesuit, Catholic Universities and the only one located in Chicago. Some of us are smart and lazy (well, lazy if we had to do the work in other departments, which often contain more busywork+memorization+class participation), and we might actually find physics programs to be MUCH easier to get into. I am curious as to where you get your information on Computational Biology and other related fields being easy to get into... these fields are actually very hot right now and extremely fast growing.

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I don't know, but most people seem horridly under-prepared for the Physics GRE simply because there are no reliable prep books available. They just convince themselves that their coursework is sufficient enough and put off studying. The key to that: a high PGRE score paired up with research.

You see people with 3.3s getting into top biology programs. I'm really not sure if you can say that Physics is harder to get in than other natural sciences and softer sciences though (how does it compare to chemistry, for example?). In this case, the doctoral program is clearly tougher to get into than the master’s program. Some will find admissions "easy" while others will think it "nearly impossible," and it all depends on subtle, and sometimes not-so-subtle, aspects of the applicant's background. 2) Acceptance rate of physics programs are much higher than expected (I thought ~5% for top ones). Formal requirements are limited in number. But that's also because you're not competing with the premeds (who will just apply for med schools).

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As for the computational biology field though, I'm relying on hearsay from someone I know from another forum.

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Meanwhile, some top level physics and astrophysics departments DO have surprisingly high acceptance rates of over 25% (and these departments are the only ones where I can get reliable acceptance rates since a lot of them post them at gradschoolshopper.com).

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Sure, a physics PhD might require more raw intelligence than a PhD in another program. (Also, fewer professors!)

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Also where did this Caltech student apply to?    |    Theoretical disciplines receive less funding, therefore they cannot support as many students. shrug If I were smarter, I probably should have done physiology and biophysics instead then. For students applying to the class of 2023, out of 21,312 applicants, MIT admitted 1,410. This requirement is waived if the candidate attended a secondary school taught in English and should be noted as such in the Test Scores/Experience section. While top math PhD programs enrollment are roughly 20/r, … Well the best of the best want the whole package-grades, test scores and research experience.

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Yeah, he had lower than 60th percentile. None of them require any deep analytical ability. I know I'm not focused, because I equally love astronomy and systems biology (well, I pretty much love everything academic). Do you offer a master’s degree? Where can I find acceptance rates for biology grad-level programs? And how are interdisciplinary fields easier to get in? He didn't even bother to study for it. *HST requires IELTS or TOEFL score reports for any candidate whose native language is not English. Acceptance Rate . You must provide one uploaded copy of the official academic transcript from each college you have attended. The time to receive a PhD (from the beginning of the first semester at JHU to filing of the thesis to JHU library after the defense) has been steadily declining. Note: Click on column header to sort. Which PhD programs have the highest acceptance rates? I don't have more bio courses since I really do NOT want to go through my university's intro biology sequence (I did self-study it though, and I self-study massive amounts of biology), and thus, I don't have the pre-reqs for most of them. The selection of the Ph.D. students admitted to the Department of Physics is based on an individualized, holistic review of each application, including (but not limited to) the student's academic record, the letters of recommendation, the statement of purpose, past accomplishments, and talent for research in physics. For more information on all graduate programs at MIT, application deadlines and requirements, costs and funding, you may visit this page MIT Graduate Admissions. physics-grad@mit.edu.. Then go through the biosciences chances site. But nowadays, lots of theoretical research is now computational, so mediocre students can at least do grunt work in the worst case (by coding programs).

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It's true that humanities programs are more competitive (percentage-wise) than science, as the post you links points out. Too much is subjective. In recognition of the significant disruptions caused by Covid-19, specifically the challenges of finding a practical testing site and date, the MIT Physics Department is not accepting Physics GRE or General GRE scores for applications received by the December 15, 2020 deadline for the academic year starting in 2021. Rights and permissions |   Privacy policy, Faculty, enrollments, and degrees granted, New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology, The Graduate Center - The City University of New York, Missouri University of Science & Technology, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, Indiana University - Purdue University Indianapolis, Department of Materials and Biomaterials Science and Engineering, Department of Applied Physics and Materials Science, Department of Applied Physics and Applied Mathematics. You don't need to be a genius to answer the questions. mydate = new Date(); The doctoral examination consists of a written and an oral examination. Check the number of rejected stduents in physics and compare that to other science fields. MIT has been a consistent national leader in the number of master’s and doctoral degrees awarded, and ranks highly in the sciences and engineering. Then go through the biosciences chances site. Some of us learn faster when we actually do things analytically, rather than when we memorize things. [quote] During the 2018-19 admissions cycle, MIT had an acceptance rate of 6.7%. [quote] I have a math+physics+astro triple major and lots of statistics and programming experience. It's the same thing with college admissions too. Total: 135 Results.

The Graduate School Old Chemistry Building, room 313 415 Chapel Drive, Box 90065 Durham, NC 27708. In 2012, we again modified the graduate program, replacing half of the course requirements and all qualifying exams … Note: Click on column header to sort. That's a very hot field, with an accompanying demand for students since the funding levels tend to be high. Good point about students needing to demonstrate enormous capability too. One of the original six courses offered when MIT was founded in 1865, MechE's faculty and students conduct research that pushes boundaries and provides creative solutions for the world's problems. Official transcripts should be scanned and uploaded to your online application. Several people get their PhD part in Public Health, or alternatively is something as different as a social science.

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They take between 6 and 9 years, usually about 7. I have a few advanced math bio courses and a senior-level synthetic biology course (and a grad lvl neurobiology course that I got a 3.7 in). Please complete the section for courses most relevant to this graduate program and the additional courses section. You have me convinced there. MIT Graduate Admissions Statement June 11, 2020. Check previous sites. Probably top 10-20 programs.Knowing students from Caltech, they woudl expect to get a PhD at the best of the best. Total: 136 Results. Seems in physics you need teh whole package- Good GRE/Good PGRE, good everything

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how badly did he do though?

Okay, that's a very good point. *The Master's Degree in Physics is available in special cases only (e.g., US military officers).

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Likewise, there might not be many (relatively speaking) students interested in astrophysics. Like lower than 60th percentile?

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I know a Caltech student who had an AMAZING GPA and AMAZING research, and still got rejected nearly everywhere. Please do not submit GRE scores to us or mention them anywhere in your application. Computational Biology and Bioinformatics programs are very competitive to get into as this field is in demand and and also the competition is fierce: you are competing against bio, comp sci, and math students for the spots in these programs. Prospective Physics Graduate Students [ Updated on November 16, 2020 10:46 AM]. Other factors like involvement and strength of undergrad program also matter.

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I would say they have more in common with PhD programs than MD programs, but, you usually have to make it through interviews with both the MD and the graduate school wanting to have you at the school.

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Here's an example of one I'm interviewing with in early Jan:

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MSTP - Medical Scientist Training Program - Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas,

But that guy is also a premed so he probably gets all his impressions from premeds. Examine the statistics. 3.5 GPAs aren't bad for physics if they're combined with research+excellent PGRE scores. It's true that humanities programs are more competitive (percentage-wise) than science, as the post you links points out. This document describes the doctoral program in the Physics Department. [quote] Or a program in chemistry, or a softer science? The average GPA of admitted applicants was 4.13, the average ACT score was 34, and the average SAT score was 1540.Students who took the ACT, the 25th percentile score of successful applicants was 34, and the 75th percentile score was 35.For students who took the SAT, the 25th percentile score was 1500. It says that physics isn't a particularly popular field for people, so it isn't that competitive.

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My impression is that astrophysics, physics, computational biology, and the computational/theoretical parts of many other sciences have the least competitive programs. Applying to UC Berkeley's Physics Graduate ProgramThe application deadline for Fall 2021 admission to the Berkeley Physics Ph.D. program is:December 15, 2020 at 8:59 PM (Pacific Standard Time)/11:59 PM (Eastern Standard Time)Your application should be complete -- meaning that all of your letters and supplemental materials should be uploaded -- by this deadline.

You may even say that there's no reason for anyone to attend a PhD program out of the top ten because you got in everywhere you applied with only a 3.4. Your application in physics at top 40 schools get tossed lol

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In my opinion I think pure math, econ, and certain humanities programs (i.e Philosophy) are the toughest for admissions, followed by CS and Physics, followed by other natural sciences, followed by softer sciences and interdisciplinary fields. And also, a field that advisers generally don't recommend people to go into. Okay, you have me convinced.

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I've read thegradcafe results before - but it's sort of frustrating because you can't see the stats of the applicant (why do they do this when they don't even post their GPAs+GRE scores? Sort by: Acceptance Rate. Likely biology is based more on research than actual grades, but still some people with amazing physics research have problem cracking top 10 schools. In addition, a professor in a theoretical area is only going to want to bother with students who demonstrate enormous capability, because otherwise they will be eat up the scarce funding and not contribute anything (whereas in more applied areas they can still do grunt work in the worst case). If someone does poorly on it, they can EASILY improve their application by taking a gap year so that they could take it the next year.

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hmm they had good GREs. IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT! The PhD and ScD degrees are awarded interchangeably by all departments in the School of Engineering and the School of Science except in the fields of biology, cognitive science, neuroscience, medical engineering, and medical physics. To be admitted into the graduate program, a student must hold a bachelor’s degree or its equivalent from an accredited college or university. [quote] MIT's Department of Mechanical Engineering (MechE) offers a world-class education that combines thorough analysis with hands-on discovery. In general:

. myyear= mydate.getFullYear(); If you are a molecular biology student with extensive math and computer training and solid research experience, you might find admission to top programs easy, even though your GPA was a 3.4. The best 40 or so programs are federally funded. University of Manchester acceptance rates and statistics for PhD Physics for the years 2015, 2016 and 2017.

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Theoretical disciplines receive less funding, therefore they cannot support as many students. Guy with 3.3 overall GPA and 850 PGRE got into Astrophysics at Cornell and Penn State (waitlisted at Columbia) - Penn State has a VERY high ranking for astrophysics.

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Just on this site. I really only have time for the PGRE at this point.

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It's also possible that lack of analytical ability is one of the main bottlenecks to a lot of bioscience research (just as lack of programming ability is the main bottleneck to astronomy research).

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Which bioscience fields are most willing to take someone with a pure math+physics major who doesn't even have organic chemistry?

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Still though, I'd really appreciate data on acceptance rates, since universities won't reply to my emails if I ask them for that data.

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I'm really interested. Go through the Physics GRE site. University of Cambridge acceptance rates and statistics for PhD Physics for the years 2014, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020. Among our graduates who have gone on to residency over the past decade, ~2/3 have been MS students. The doctorate normally requires the full-time concentration of the student for a minimum of four years. Thus they can only support a few, top students.

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In my opinion I think pure math, econ, and certain humanities programs (i.e Philosophy) are the toughest for admissions, followed by CS and Physics, followed by other natural sciences, followed by softer sciences and interdisciplinary fields.

. It is incredibly easy to get an undergrad research position if you want to do mathematical biology for example, or the more theoretical parts of any other science. Sure, a physics PhD might require more raw intelligence than a PhD in another program. Meanwhile, some top level physics and astrophysics departments DO have surprisingly high acceptance rates of over 25% (and these departments are the only ones where I can get reliable acceptance rates since a lot of them post them at gradschoolshopper.com). // --> Your application in physics at top 40 schools get tossed lol,

Where are the statistics? In general:

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physics>chemistry> biology in terms of difficulty of getting in. I spent the past summer in an NSF funded program for Computational Biology and it had a 4% acceptance rate.

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Most of this reasoning is unconvincing. Sure, lots of people complain about the PGRE, but it's incredible how little they study for it.

Go through the Physics GRE site. [quote] Sure, lots of people complain about the PGRE, but it's incredible how little they study for it. Furthermore, they are cheap (because you don't need huge $$ for labs) and in relatively high demand.

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I'm particularly interested in the theoretical/computational astrophysics. I'm especially interested in systems biology, biophysics, and computational biology. [quote] For example, in 2016 University of Michigan’s math doctoral program had a 17.2 percent acceptance rate, whereas its master’s program had a much higher 31.8 percent rate. The deadline for submitting completed appl… Reliable data, properly contextualized, can help people understand complex systems and make informed decisions.So, a few years ago, we began publishing our own admissions statistics which went beyond the stats already contributed to the MIT… Some departments require a doctoral candidate to take a “minor” program outside of the principal field. It is not essential that the undergraduate degree be in economics. People just don't do them.

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The Physics GRE is one of the most important parts of the application, and the part that's actually the easiest to improve. Maybe biology programs are easier to get in for people at the 90th percentile of intelligence. Applicants are required to complete Subjects Taken section of the online application. Wow. I actually pursued theoretical biology research first, but screwed up my opportunities (due to immaturity) and astronomy professors are more forgiving, so I went into astronomy.

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Okay, good point about humanities. Ph.D. in Economics. His reason: Poor PGRE. http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1063820139-post19.html%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1063820139-post19.html</a, MSTP - Medical Scientist Training Program - Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/graduate-school/995669-2011-official-biosciences-interviews-results.html%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/graduate-school/995669-2011-official-biosciences-interviews-results.html</a></p. However, this is because humanities receive even less funding (you can think of them as even more theoretical than theoretical sciences, because there is very little concrete gain). The best thing about them is that unlike regular medical school which costs 50,000 a year or so, these pay you 30,000 a year for whole time you are there.

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It supplements the Graduate Policies and Procedures, which outlines the general Institute requirements and is available on the web at https://oge.mit.edu/gpp/.. Also the average GPA for bioscience students at a lot of top 10 programs is around 3.5,

Oh really? document.write(year); That was the only one with the combo I could find so far.

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EDIT: looked for more, almost no more examples. (Also, fewer professors!)

Maybe they have amazing physics research but didn't do well on the Physics GRE? Just on this site. Also the average GPA for bioscience students at a lot of top 10 programs is around 3.5

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Also you posted on thegradcafe.com right? Yes, there's a lot of money in the field, but there are also a lot of students who are interested in it. Graduate Programs with High Acceptance Rates

physics>chemistry> biology in terms of difficulty of getting in. I can assure you that kids get into top bioscience programs with 3.5 GPAs which would be mediocre in physics.

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I am not a physicist by the way- just pointing out what I have seen from general observation. It's generally easier to get into a master's program than a PhD program, at MIT or at any other top science or engineering graduate program. Computational Biology and Bioinformatics programs are very competitive to get into as this field is in demand and and also the competition is fierce: you are competing against bio, comp sci, and math students for the spots in these programs. But I also love theoretical biology and atmospheric sciences.

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I am curious as to where you get your information on Computational Biology and other related fields being easy to get into... these fields are actually very hot right now and extremely fast growing. And yes, people with 3.3s DO get into physics grad programs, and it's actually not uncommon. Most of my research is in the astro department but maybe they're willing to take recommendations from people in other departments?

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And do most of them require advanced GREs or not?

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I know a Caltech student who had an AMAZING GPA and AMAZING research, and still got rejected nearly everywhere.