Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue. Bloodlusted. ''Juyo/Vaapad: The most aggressive and unpredictable form. Saying someone's superpower won't work well in a fight isn't the same as saying they will lose it. As well as Soresu, Shii-Cho none of these styles have any offensive power to threat Makashi's skills of taking better positioning, and fencing abilities. The same Talzin also was doing just fine dueling Windu in a sword fight in season 6. Or you could join with me again. See my other ads for more toys and transformers. Kenobi VS Maul can go both ways, Maul usually took the advantage in their Clone War duels. Whether he always was such a total and utter basketcase remains a matter of some contention. Transformers star wars Mace Windu incomplet mais en bon état -- 5$ Voyez mes autres annonces pour plus de jouets et transformers. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Versions: Palpatine (ROTS), Vader (Just after ROTS), Dooku (ROTS) vs Luke (ROTJ), Yoda (ROTS), Mace (ROTS) Location: Mustafar. @thoromdil: I'd say that @void_reborns answer pretty much sums up my thoughts on your reply. Saying someone's superpower won't work well in a fight isn't the same as saying they will lose it. He didn't mention Dooku there. Master Windu himself remained perfectly balanced and centered. Thanks to Talzin's sacrifice, Maul ultimately managed to survive the Clone Wars and wound up hiding on Malachor where he continued plotting revenge against the Sith and their Empir… Ah. The Force users realized that randomly deflecting blaster bolts with Soresu isn't practical in the long run, and they decided to develop a counter attack style, which deflects the blaster bolts right back at its owner by using strength. Posted by 2 years ago. Mace will vaapad him to a draw at the very least. So overall, Soresu and Ataru are better fighting styles, while Makashi is a better lightsaber dueling style. A master of every single form of lightsaber combat and numerous aspects of the Force, only Jedi as powerful as Grand Master Yoda could call themselves his peer in battle. Actually, Dooku intended to lose, although it was more of a "fake convincing defeat" scenario in his head than "get hands chopped". save. 1; 2; Next. The Count wins here in a magnificent fight. Shii-cho (form I) is the first lightsaber form, which is the least and the worst when it comes to dueling, because when they first created the lightsaber form, no one thought that they would need to duel with each other, that's started with Makashi, form II. So dooku will lose. While he fights to end the war, he states that, in order to secure a peaceful transition, the Jedi will need to control the Senate. Who wins and by what extent? The two teams will start facing each other 10 feet away in the same place Obi-Wan vs Anakin started. Equals.''. Mace Windu's 'vapaad' not working on Dooku is only true if Dooku doens't dare to use electric or strangle force which he has many times done. Property of Lucasfilm and Disney Djem-so also focuses on physical strength, not only to defense. Mace, at a minimum, scales to every other Jedi in the Order since he is considered the Order's best duelist. While he fights t… Ok, let’s start with dueling feats. Anakin Skywalker vs Mace Windu Thread starter Phenomenon; Start date Sep 16 ... to hers and Dooku's to Sidious, they were evenly matched in parity. Vos all but danced around Dooku, forcing the older man to whirl, strike, and block from every side. 29 comments. It's absolutely unbelievable that anyone would have second thoughts about the results. The dark whispers spoke of Bulq, of Depa Billaba, and other Jedi who had fallen to the dark side of the Force, or worse, had massacred civilians or joined the Separa… Sidious was vaapad's max. Posted by. Um… No question there. So I'm kind of 50/50 on that. Apparently the ROTS novelization gave an official explanation for that. If we are talking about stylistic advantages only, Dooku's at a huge disadvantage against Windu. It has no offensive power or any attack power against Makashi, if it's dueling, Makashi also has advantage against Soresu. Archived. Early TCW Mace vs early TCW Dooku = Dooku. The Prequels show how the Jedi exist as peacekeepers who maintain order. Mace Windu vs Mom Talzin - Time of year 6 event 9 “The Disappeared Rehabilitation. Apparently Grievous fought Mace Windu at one point, and despite generally being considered Obi-Wan's superior by far, he was unable to break through Grievous' defenses. See ya!" Round 2: Bloodlusted, passive force powers only. That's why it's very hard for Force users to not to fall to the dark side while using Juyo, because they are abusing the Force with every move, which is why Windu created Vaapad, so he could use the same form without falling to the dark side of the Force. Power vise Dooku has been stated to be either equal, which I don't believe, or comparable to Yoda that makes on par or better than Mace Saber vise Dooku's style makes him a perfect candidate for beating Mace, cold and calculated. https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/spacebattles-merchandise.398032/. Palpatine, Darth Vader, Count Dooku vs Luke Skywalker, Yoda, Mace Windu. Than Windu fought and beat Dooku's master. While Makashi was developed only for dueling between the lightsaber users, and it has a perfect advantage against Ataru, because Makashi can easily take a better positioning advantage against Ataru's bullrush speed attacks, and spinning attacks, and acrobatic movements, it can tire the lightsaber user opponent during the fights by taking better positioning and leverage, as we've seen from Dooku's AotC Kenobi duel, AotC Kenobi had Dooku backing for a while, but Dooku's Makashi skills manage to take the advantage back against AotC Kenobi's Ataru, and he gets the advantage against him shortly after. But to give a definitive answer for the scenario I would say Windu. Mace Windu VS Count Dooku Thread starter Samurai Navarre; Start date Dec 19, 2015; Status Not open for further replies. Then Palps hits Mace with lightning which Mace holds off and then redirects it towards Palps causing him a lot of pain. Djem-so is confirmed to be a very good counter for Makashi, because of its ''kinetic power''. HD Mace Windu, allied with Jar Jar Binks, fights Mother Talzin and her small force of cultists. Le comte Dooku ou Dark Tyranus, est un personnage de fiction de Star Wars qui apparaît dans les épisodes II et III. Description. Mace Windu appears in the set 7261 Clone Turbo Tank, first as a light-up lightsaber Minifigure, then the figure was later changed to a standard minifigure in the set in 2006, a year after its initial release.The new figure remains similar to the light-up lightsaber appearance, and features a brown head with two black dot eyes, two slanted eyebrows, and a black, slightly slanted mouth. Juyo/Vaapad (Form VII) and Djem-So (Form V) are the most troublesome 2 styles for Form II Makashi. Mace vs dooku is pretty much even split, though I favored dooku ever so slightly. The other was former Master Dooku, whose own fighting style was archaic, yet stunningly effective. hide. Again there was no one that had a clear advantage in this fight, there lightsaber skills were evenly matched with nobody being able to gain the upper hand. He's too personally, financially, and socially powerful to be said to have delusions of grandeur. Anything and everything goes. The battle wasn't exactly decisive, and Dooku withdrawing out of disinterest doesn't really mean anything. That being that Anakin got a power boost from briefly giving into the Dark Side (which isn't exactly new for SW), and that Dooku was going easy on him to an extent due to instruction from Palpatine. While historically there have been wars in the galaxy, the Jedi don't exist as generals -- at least, not regularly. Dooku wheezed. That seems an adequate summation of Dooku after he went Sith. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. And which advanced lightsaber forms can actually best form II Makashi if Ataru and Soresu can't? Windu vs Dooku & Ventress on Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:03 am The Master of the Order, the second grand master, the one who beat Palpatine AKA the mighty Mace Windu takes on the senile Count Dooku and bald Asajj Ventress. Le 27 novembre 2017 à 09:19:01 PTDRMW3MDR a écrit - page 7 - Topic Mace Windu VS Comte Dooku du 24-11-2017 23:37:00 sur les forums de jeuxvideo.com All I heard was that he and Sidious would have attempted to turn Anakin to their cause then and there. ''Unpredictability'' is also a shared trait with Savage's fighting style. It's not like they were both alreafy there. Yoda VS Sidious is a stalemate, slight advantage to Yoda if the environment doesn't have a lot of junk for Sidious to throw around with the Force. The one which is the most ferocious and aggressive one, by using the dark side of the Force; Juyo/Vaapad, Form VII, the most advanced form. Could go either way. Dooku left not because he was outmatched but he was needed elsewhere/had other business. Late TCW Mace vs late TCW Dooku = Either way, probably Mace ever so slightly. The face of none other than Mace Windu, Jedi master. Round 1: SW Canon versions. 90% Upvoted. I never really paid any attention to your other points, as this is the only one I'm interested in addressing. The first explanation doesn't make much sense; he was full Dark Side at the end of the movie and Obi-Wan still kicked his ass. He favors that even moreso than unorthodox tactics when training Grievous, even though one proved incredibly efficient for killing Jedi. Feats from EU and new canon allowed. Discussion board for Star Wars versus matchups and related topics. 1 of 2 Go to page. Not to mention, he literally said to Mace "you won't kill me. Dec 19, 2015 #1 No restrictions. Archived. Ep III: Mace, definitely, no contest. We've seen Mace could cut down a giant Gundark vertically with only a single slash, this is an example of ''powerful blow'' of Juyo/Vaapad. JediMasterYoda2 ... Dooku VS Windu . We know that Dooku couldn't find an answer for Quinlan Vos's very unpredictable fighting style during the duel, and Vos forced Dooku to block from every side; ''But Vos's characteristic unpredictability-quite possibly even to himself-often gave him the edge. Dooku's power confuses me. Both Tyranus and Mace have accolades that put one over the other. Mace is canonically above Dooku as a tier 9. Fans were eager to see Luke battle against Supreme Leader Snoke in The Last Jedi but those hopes are dashed when both… Although Maul was able to escape Dathomir alive, Sidious judged him as no longer being a threat to the Sith rule of the galaxy. Think about it: Normally, Sith lords rely heavily on Force lightning when fighting a Jedi (like Palps vs. Mace Windu). If he wanted to he could've taken that fight, considering he has the Magnaguards as back up as well, which also helped him easily capture Anakin in TCW. And for people saying Mace is a match for Sidious, he is not. "You need...an introduction...," Dooku choked out. Back in the day, it was widely praised as one of the better offerings of the EU. @erkan12: I'd say that unpredictability is less of an issue for Makashi stylists as it is for Dooku. Cela signifie que les chances de victoire de Windu sont très importantes... Donc, avantage Mace Windu! It isn't even hard math. And what's the relation of Juyo/Vaapad and unpredictability? The second makes even less sense since he's clearly shocked by his own loss and death rather than being a willing martyr. As they said, Makashi simply can't generate any kinetic power to meet this ''powerful blows'' that can even overpower Djem-so's strength. Count Dooku vs Mace Windu. But Juyo and Djem So definitely pose an issue for him, mostly because of his lack of stamina. Count Dooku vs Mace Windu. In terms of stylistic advantage, Juyo/Vaapad is probably even a better counter than Djem-so for Makashi. SheogorathCDC MP. In the history of the Jedi Order, only two opponents ever overcame him in battle. Again, Vos slammed Dooku's head against the unyielding metal of the deck, this time with his hand around the older man's throat. Find him. He stalemated General Grievous in Labyrinth of Evil. It's not a coincidence that both unpredictable fighters Vos and Savage has succeeded against Dooku in combat. Dooku went head to head with YODA , and nearly matched his prowess with a blade. Dooku and Windu met in the old canon and Dooku fled. Debates' started by Jcogginsa, Dec 22, 2015. Both Soresu (form III) and Ataru (form IV) comes after form II, you may think that those two Soresu and Ataru should be more advanced than makashi, it's, because Ataru is faster than makashi, and Soresu has far better defenses, but none of these fighting styles are for dueling only, makashi is. He totally was just not interested. ''His own elegant Makashi simply did not generate the kinetic power to meet Djem So head-to-head.''. We know how much he emphasises on form, elegance and finesse above all else. Next Last ••• More options Who Replied? The answer is simple really, Mace Windu is a master of Vapaad. Re: Anakin Skywalker and Count Dooku vs Mace Windu and Yoda on September 26th 2020, 9:09 pm Yoda beats Anakin better in every way except endurance and it doesn’t matter because it won’t last longer than a minute. hide. As such, he commanded incredible influence over the Jedi Council and subsequently the Jedi Order itself. So, at first we have Anakin as a child. Than Windu fought and beat Dooku's master. "A team. Which makes it a very good counter for Makashi. We will defeat Sidious together!". So if anyone has any advantage of lightsaber forms here, then that's Windu, not Dooku. These 2 are probably 2 of the most evenly matched fictional characters ever. He LITERALLY said "you won't kill me, because I can run away! However, Mace Windu os a major wartime figure for the Jedi, and he orchestrates the Republic's actions during the war, not unlike Palpatine. Discussion in 'Vs. And when we see these 3 fight, we indeed see they were all in the same ballpark. Also you ignored 3 other points I mentioned. However, Mace Windu os a major wartime figure for the Jedi, and he orchestrates the Republic's actions during the war, not unlike Palpatine. '', Source: Star Wars - Absolutely Everything You Need to Know (2015). without Vaapad Sidious would have won without much difficulty. he just had the perfect style advantage as Dooku has here. In the aftermath of a battle between the Separatists and Shadow Collective , Chancellor Palpatine informed Windu that Count Dooku and Maul were seen near Ord Mantell . I was gonna say that they've never fought and that Windu was actually stated to be one of the only two Jedi who could beat Dooku. @kirkseven: yeah it's totally reasonable to be disinterested in killing a grand general of the republic and a master of the order of jedi council, if you have the ability to do it. I have lost count how many times this has been done lol. Fight to the death. The room is dark and quiet, the silence broken by the heavy breathing of two shadowy figures. Dooku just isn't on the same level as the big 3. Lmao. Re: Mace Windu & Count Dooku Vs Darth Vader (Knightfall) on March 17th 2020, 11:54 pm Probably for the same reason post-fall Anakin - an ally of Sheev's - was included. D'ailleurs il le dit lui-même "Dark Vador deviendra plus puissant que n - page 3 - Topic Mace Windu VS Comte Dooku du 24-11-2017 23:37:00 sur les forums de jeuxvideo.com Menu Mon compte Well Dooku did use his force lightning effectively in most of the fights he's in during TCW. This is not a debatable topic. Log in ; Register ; Suspect Insight Forums. Close. It is also called ''Ferocity Form''. Summary. I'd favor Dooku as I believe he's slightly more powerful and slightly more skilled. Following Bulq's death, his name became known among those who worried of the fate of the Galactic Republic and whispered of the fall of the Jedi. Who would win? However, he's stronger, just as fast, and is just as skilled with a saber. Mace. hitung dooku vs. hitung dooku vs. Jawaban 1: Pertanyaan ini sedikit tidak adil. Not today." Mace hasn't gotten his massive power boost yet, so he's still around Dooku level in power, maybe lower. EpII: Dooku would win out in the end, although it would be a fairly even match. Round 2: EU versions . He was also described numerous times as Yoda's close equal in skill and power, and we all know Yoda beat Dooku in AotC. 5 years ago. And another big weakness of Makashi, is unpredictability. This thread is archived. To defeat Dooku by using Ataru, one must be above his power level, which Kenobi wasn't at that level, Yoda overpowered Dooku by simply being on a different level than him, which is why the stylistic advantage didn't mean anything for Dooku in that fight. Suspect Insight Forums. Sorry, but that's an excuse so low nobody who can objectively assess this critically would've drawn your conclusion. But yeah. Le comte Dooku est interprété par Christopher Lee et doublé en version française par Bernard Dhéran et en version québécoise par Guy Nadon. Form VII Juyo/Vaapad is the ''most unpredictable'' form of all lightsaber combat forms. And considering that never happened, I’d wager palpatine takes it. Rules. He's just as skilled (probably slightly more skilled), has better physicals, and he's considerably more powerful. Dooku sait que Windu est un duelliste remarquable : il n'a pas le droit de perdre (donc de mourir) vis à vis des engagements qu'il a avec son Maître. The answer is Form VIII (Juyo/Vaapad) and Form V (Djem-So). Property of Lucasfilm and Disney Savage Opress VS... Mace Windu (TPM) Standard SI rules. This is made even clearer where Mace Windu is said to “accept the furious speed” of Sidious and drawing on “the shadow’s rage and power” and then letting it “fountain out”. mercredi 14 décembre 2005 - 11:09 Modification Admin Permalien × One was Master Yoda, who some said was the Order's true master of lightsaber combat. report. Mace Windu (TPM) vs … While yes, Yoda would've won had it continued, it was an inconclusive duel. Re: Anakin Skywalker and Count Dooku vs Mace Windu and Yoda on September 26th 2020, 9:09 pm Yoda beats Anakin better in every way except endurance and it doesn’t matter because it won’t last longer than a minute. Samurai Navarre The Angel of Death. report. Dooku and Windu met in the old canon and Dooku fled. In legends it goes either way, but probably more towards Mace by ROTS. 203 comments . That is not what you said, you said Mace was definitely superior which is what I was arguing against. Mace Windu is arguably the most skilled lightsaber duelist of all time and his style is particularly effective against other dark side users. We've seen that a Juyo/Vaapad user can overpower even a Djem-so user, and Djem-so is actually a form that relies on physical strength by using the Force; Any other form, other than perhaps Soresu, has no chance to deflect ''powerful blows'' of Juyo/Vaapad. Care you sum it up for those who haven't watched the video? The scene below is but one example. He couldn't possibly spend an extra couple minutes to do that. The ''powerful blows'' is what makes the style very dangerous to Makashi, just like Djem-so's ''kinetic power'' is. They're practically dead even, only way one can beat the other is by exploiting a mistake the other makes. Obi Wan is a master of Suresu, a defensively based form that only weakness is form 7…Juyo/ Vapaad. MAce Windu lost to Anakin because he thought he was on his side, that's a totally irrlevant fight. Battle. Soresu was developed for ultimate defense and it's for deflecting blaster bolts and any other kind of attacks. II”Star Wars is certainly in many ways a dream tale: it't heroes are usually wizards, it's weapons are usually swords, it't governments are usually routines. Favori. Decent, at least. Good fight! Round 4: Bloodlusted, active force powers allowed. Would you like to react to this message? "Mediocre? MAce Windu lost to Anakin because he thought he was on his side, that's a totally irrlevant fight. He previously matched with Gundark's gigantic physical strength, and even break its hold, which is expected from a master of Juyo/Vaapad fighting style. Serious. Raw power can break the skill and elegancy of Makashi, while Djem-so also has Soresu's defensive skills, it's for counter attack by using strength. Dooku est un Seigneur Sith et le commandant suprême de la Confédération des systèmes indépendants. Yoda never defeated Dooku. This theory suggests that Mace Windu might have been corrupted by power during the Clone Wars. Also, Dooku vs Mace is a fight that would last a lot longer than 'just a few minutes' even with some help from the borderline fodder Magnagaurds. In canon, its probably a stalemate until Dooku runs out of energy. 121. Are you referring to their duel on Boz Pity? Vos started to choke Dooku again. 30,00 $ Star Wars Revenge of the Sith Sidious vs Mace Battle Arena Laval/Rive Nord 22-décembre-20. When faced with an incredibly unpredictable opponent, Dooku might be unable to discern a way around their fighting style. Even if you don't believe Sidious was going all-out against Windu, Anakin had trouble even following Windu's movements in Windu's fight against Sidious. Jcogginsa. The most relevant quotes from the novelization, re: Dooku's thoughts. Do we assume that Sidious was sandbagging for the purposes of this conversation. Mace Windu vs Count Dooku # Mace Windu Yeah. May I ask what the rest of the plan in his head was? Mace will vaapad him to a draw at the very least. Suspect Insight Forums. "Am I? Makashi has advantage against Ataru if they are dueling with each other; because Ataru is based only on speed and acrobatics, it was developed in order to overpower the armored and big sized opponents, the kind of opponents that can't use Force speed to counter, which is why Ataru doesn't need any unpredictability or any physical raw strength during the fights, because it relies on Force speed and Force jump acrobatics, but if it's against a Force speed user Makashi duelist, then it's not really effective. Re: Mace Windu & Count Dooku Vs Darth Vader (Knightfall) on March 17th 2020, 5:01 pm No offence, but I've had this debate so many times that I really don't want to get into Mace vs Sidious right now, @The God Emperor But I find this kind of odd because in the past he has stomped and easily defeated unpredictable enemies or characters wielding weapons that would make their fighting style unpredictable (lightsaber whip/energy whip). ... 12 serangan per detik dari Jenderal Grievous, diakui sebagai salah satu pejuang pedang terbesar dari Ordo Jedi oleh Mace Windu, dan lebih nyaman di atas yang disukai dari Asajj Ventress. Dooku overextended-only a trifle-and the next thing Kenobi knew the count's lightsaber was across the room and the count himself was on his back. Both Dooku and Windu bring their own mastery of their respective lightsaber combat styles, Makashi and Vaapad. Its why he tries to recruit people to help him take Sidious down. Round 1: In character, passive force powers only. Because "the magnaguards will distract you while I make my departure". Close. Count Dooku vs. Mace Windu. "No, no!" Takes place in the arena where Sidious fought Yoda. Because he doesn't have the skill? Which is an offensively based form, and, a Jedi version of Juyo. Mace Windu's 'vapaad' not working on Dooku is only true if Dooku doens't dare to use electric or strangle force which he has many times done. And which styles also have ''kinetic power''? I don't think you're giving Dooku enough credit, Thorom. And why? Star Wars: The Clone Wars – Lightsaber Duels is a Wii fighting video game based on Star Wars: The Clone Wars. Serious. Mace Windu vs Count Dooku # Mace Windu Lol, yeah. So to answer your question, Anakin is nowhere close to her either. Knowledge: All canon knowledge from the time of ROTS . 22. Mace and Dooku take this in a really great fight. JavaScript is disabled. Dooku knows he isn't a match for Sidious. So what I'm getting from this is that Count Dooku is a sociopathic malignant narcissist. You must log in or register to reply here. Totally reasonable to just turn your back. It's not like Dooku had him 1vs1 AND have a backup of magnaguards. Sorry, but once again, this is NOT debatable. We can't say the magnaguards didn't act on their own initiative seeing as Dooku never gave any verbal command. But let's not forget that Dooku was over 90 years old in Ep III, of course his powers were diminishing. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. save. Home ; Gallery ; FAQ ; Search . Now Windu vs Palpatine. Les forums de discussions de la Planète Star Wars sur Dooku VS Windu? Click to expand... Thats what i thought Nice to know that even with my limited knowledge on … Round 3: In character, active force powers allowed. Mace Windu vs Count Dooku. Suddenly, the darkness is pierced by a blinding purple light. Board for Star Wars: the Clone Wars et en version française Bernard! 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